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   mikiem2
   Moderator

   theverge[.]com/2024/6/24/24184795/meta-instagram-incorrect-made-by-ai-photo-labels

   With Aiarty on GOTD, it's maybe a good time to point out an issue that's starting to drive photographers nuts. Everyone, including governments, is pressuring big companies in media, social media, and software to do something about AI generated fake images, voices, and videos, which can all be used in misinformation campaigns and/or fraud. So far no one has figured out any potential solutions, but that doesn't stop big biz from feeling that they have to do something, if only to somehow give them a little bit of a legal shield. One result of that is embedded tags in image files if AI was used. The software of course has no idea how or why AI was involved, whether it was used to substantially alter a photo, generate the majority of the photo itself, or fix a 3 pixel speck of dust. All 3 can qualify for the tag, meaning those photos will now be branded as AI generated. Not every app will add those AI tags, and not every site or viewer will look for them. A Google search didn't come up with a way to remove AI related tags, other than a trick to skip the tag by copy /pasting a layer into a new photo in Photoshop. Those generating images and such for illicit use apparently don't use software that adds the tags, or so far don't care, which could be taken to mean that current efforts tagging photos as AI are only penalizing legitimate use by regular folks.

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   gergn
   Member

   I asked Perplexity.ai in Pro how to avoid those AI tags. I provided it with a copy of your posting, followed by the question: 'How can I prevent these photographs being tagged as AI generated?'

   Part of its output is below between quotes.
   One suggestion is to use software that does not add AI tags:

   "Based on the search results and available information, here are some software options that likely do not add AI tags to images:

   Darktable: This open-source photography workflow application and raw developer does not appear to include AI-driven tagging or add AI tags automatically.
   Photo Mechanic: While it offers tagging capabilities, there's no indication that it adds AI tags automatically.
   Adobe Bridge: This digital asset management app allows for manual tagging but doesn't seem to add AI tags on its own.
   Shotwell: This simple photo manager for Linux environments offers basic tagging functionality but doesn't include AI-driven tagging.
   digiKam: While it has various tagging features, there's no mention of automatic AI tagging.
   ACDSee Photo Studio: It offers tagging capabilities but doesn't appear to add AI tags automatically.
   PicaJet FX: This software provides tagging features but doesn't seem to include AI-driven tagging.
   Exif Pilot: This program offers a semi-manual tagging system, allowing you to choose from provided tags rather than automatically adding AI tags.

   It's important to note that while these software options may not add AI tags automatically, many of them still offer robust manual tagging capabilities. If you want to avoid AI tagging altogether, these options might be more suitable for your needs. However, always check the latest version of any software, as features can change with updates."

   Secondly, you can remove tags by using software as:
   "Remove Metadata
   You can use various tools to remove metadata from your images, which can include AI tags. Some popular tools are:

   ExifTool: A powerful tool for reading, writing, and editing metadata in image and video files.
   ImageOptim: A tool that optimizes image file sizes and can remove metadata."

   As I do not edit photos on a large scale myself, and certainly do not publish my photos on the internet, I leave it to others to check if these tips from Perplexity.ai are useful.

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   mikiem2
   Moderator

   Thanks!

   Like you, I don't put any photos online, but wanted to warn folks because, in the US at least, labels can sometimes mean much more than they should. Posting photos marked or tagged as AI can sadly lead to harassment &/or banning, so that's one label you want to avoid for non-AI photos & images. I *suspect* AI-tagged photos are also more often stolen, copied for someone else's use, with some people feeling that since AI created it, not you, it's not really yours in the 1st place.

   Meta tags images created with their AI both in the meta data and in the image itself, altering the pixels to create a watermark invisible to humans. I've been unable to find out how Photoshop tags an image when AI image generation was used, and I couldn't find out how Meta decides to tag an image as AI either, though it seems a popular question. I did find a discussion regarding ExifTool from earlier this month, but, I haven't found the tags they talk about in my own image files from the last day or two where, I've used Photoshop's image generation to for example remove the very top of a person's head intruding at the bottom of a photo.

   exiftool[.]org/forum/index.php?topic=16129.0

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   Renanm9
   Member

   The idea of embedding tags to identify AI involvement in photos sounds like a step towards transparency, but you're right—it's tricky. It could unfairly stigmatize legitimate uses while potentially being ignored by those creating fakes.

   Posted 7 months ago #

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