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   mikiem2
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   petri[.]com/paul-thurrotts-short-takes-august-28

   I 1st heard of this today at the above link, but if you Google on "Windows 10 2004 trim" [w/out quotes] or similar, you'll get lots of hits with various levels of info. This has been reported in forums apparently since April-May, 2020, but I've never seen it on the larger Windows sites. Yikes!

   If you have System Restore turned on, Windows 10 will run a defrag -- yup, a defrag -- on SSDs once a month. VSS [Volume Shadow Copy] apparently has problems with badly fragmented SSDs. The problem is that Win10 2004/20H1 doesn't record that it's already run that defrag, so it'll run it again every time Win10 starts. Again, yikes.

   You can turn off automatic optimization in Settings -> System -> Storage -> Optimize Drives, which will effect all drives, or right click a drive in Windows Explorer, go to Optimize and defragment drive on the Tools tab... there you can turn auto optimization on/off separately for each drive.

   Normally in day to day operation Win10 optimizing an SSD means running TRIM. Windows running TRIM is a sort of failsafe in case an SSDs built-in TRIM scheduling doesn't do the job, so having automatic optimization turned off for an SSD shouldn't matter much at all.

   That all said, Microsoft has come up with a fix for the problem -- they just have to add it to a future patch or update.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   Robert
   StrayCat

   Thanks mike.Your contributions to the forum are much appreciated.

   It sure looks as if the cumulative update (preview) kb4571744 fixes a plethora of problems...
   The preview is available as yet using windows update,looking for "optional updates"

   htxps://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4571744/windows-10-update-kb4571744

   Take care.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   mikiem2
   Moderator

   Thanks

   Careful... That KB4571744 update has been the worst I've ever encountered!!! I *think* I have experienced *most* of its bad behavior by yesterday evening, but hadn't posted anything yet.

   Once it worked OK [and Only Once], with both a .NET preview update [KB4570721] & the cumulative update [KB4571744] showing up when I checked for updates in Windows Update. Note that the cumulative update shows up as a link on the main update page, & when you click that, then click the dropdown link, there's a box you check next to KB4571744 to download & install.

   Several times after checking that box and clicking the button to install, Windows Update searched again for updates, And Found Nothing. Checking for updates a 2nd, 3rd, 4th time etc. did nothing. About 1/2 the time Windows Update proceeded to download and install the update anyway -- sometimes Windows Update showed download & installation progress a while later, sometimes not, and I only knew it installed because it said to restart.

   Several times once KB4571744 was installed, after the restart, the .NET update, which had been apparently installed behind the scenes, without Any mention [I hadn't clicked anything to install it], popped up a notice to restart. Once, the .NET update showed in Windows Update, installed, and then showed a restart was necessary. I was in the process of installing KB4571744 manually, since Windows Update never showed it, & waited until that was complete, figuring one restart would do it. Wrong. After the restart for KB4571744 I had to do a separate restart for the .NET update.

   A couple times the .NET update showed up, and after installation & restart, KB4571744 started installing, and once or twice it then showed up for the 1st time in Windows Update, with the option to install.

   There really are a Lot of fixes in KB4571744, but I'm not sure if folks wouldn't be better off waiting a week in hopes that Microsoft gets their #$%@* together on Patch Tuesday. I really don't know.

   At the same time I've been looking for any Intel-related updates to show up in Windows Update, but haven't seen anything. Microsoft released Intel microcode updates, but only some are available via Windows Update. Microsoft's docs don't seem to be all that clear, or current, e.g. while the updates were released 9/1/20, a footnote says some were available via Windows Update in February. And the list of CPUs that get the update is sure to make folks eyes glaze over, with many CPU listings missing the names us common folk go by, eg. i5 xxxx.

   neowin[.]net/news/microsoft-releases-new-intel-microcode-updates-for-all-supported-windows-10-versions

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   mikiem2
   Moderator

   Win10 cumulative updates are supposed to include all the patches or fixes that are missing. I was concerned that the list that Microsoft published for the Patch Tuesday cumulative update doesn't come anywhere near the number of fixes in the earlier KB4571744. The [.csv] list of files for today's update doesn't include file version numbers for the majority of files. Nonetheless the files updated with just today's KB4571756 -- But Not the prior KB4571744 -- seems to show the very same files updated as a copy of Win10 that got both KB4571744 & then KB4571756.

   Posted 4 years ago #

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