The IncrediMail game gives NO options for install. I uninstalled it as fast as I installed it. I do not accept games that insist on Program Files and give me NO options on install at all.
Hidden Object Games
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Posted 15 years ago #
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Alianthia
Member02Gram09:
That had a pretty scary part in its EULA..I was suspicious when the "about us" section had nothing in it.. so I read the privacy info and amongst the endless sections, came across this..
4. CONTAMINATED DATA AND MALICIOUS APPLICATIONS
"You hereby acknowledge and understand that by using the Internet and/or the Site and/or the Service (including by mere access) and/or the Software and/or the service provided by the Service Provider and/or any Application and/or Content, You may be exposed to contaminated files, computer viruses, eavesdropping, harassment, electronic trespassing, hacking and other harmful acts or consequences that might lead to unauthorized invasion of privacy, loss of data and other damages. Furthermore, by installing the client side of the Software on Your computer, You understand that: (i) certain system non-personally identifiable information, including statistical data, stored on Your computer will be made available and transmittable to other servers; (ii) other information available now or in the future on the Site and/or Service including links, services, messages advertisements, cookies and the like may be installed on Your computer and; (iii) each of the Companies may automatically transmit to and install on Your computer, software improvements, corrections, adaptations, conversions to more recent Software versions or any other changes to update the Software. You hereby waive and/or cause of action against Exent and and/or any of the Companies in respect of the aforesaid."Eeek I would be cautious...
Tizz , thanks for the info!
I have enough games right now to keep me pretty busy...lol!
Posted 15 years ago # -
Merri,
Thanks for that hint. Often times, the only way you can "move" from one folder to another is to uninstall and re-install. If it has "hooks" elsewhere, it may not be possible to move it. I was able to move this folder (I moved the entire "IncrediGames" folder and I fixed the shortcuts rather than recreate them.
I did check the registry because I saw it doing something there during the registration but they were just internet hooks.
It is a nice game but given the extra complications, I will not be recommending this one to my "novice" friends. I don't want to have to walk them through the move. The shortcut is the easy part - they can just delete them and recreate the shortcuts in the final location.
It's still very poor programming to insist on it being in a given place and having NO options during install except the approval of the EULA.
Posted 15 years ago # -
Alianthia
MemberHi Dragon lair!
Yes very true.
YES novice users might have difficulty with moving the file, as you say.
Incredimail should realize this..and allow the user to install where they want.Iwin games is notorious for its' "hook".
I am still trying to get rid of the one on my computer form there.
I am thinking it MIGHT work if I install a iwin game then uninstall it with revo uninstaller..(thus removing the "hook"????Posted 15 years ago # -
g@rgoyle
ModeratorHi Merri,
The "Iwin hook" starts up with the system and you can't remove it when it's active, but you can disable the file and remove it when it's not active.
I don't know if you have a program that includes a start-up manager or an advanced task manager, but if you do then I would suggest giving that a go instead of downloading more Iwin files.
Most of those managers will list the file under "services" or under "browser helpers". With a task manager you should immediately be able to delete the file manually after you've stopped it, but with a start-up manager you'll need to re-boot first and then delete it.
Hope this helps!Regards,
LanPosted 15 years ago # -
Alianthia
MemberHi Lan!
I cannot delete the hook file, have tried a million times..
I am only about 50 % computer literate, so although I know how to maintain my computer there is always lots to learn, so thank you so much for this info!
Would you call win patrol a good start up manager?
Or what would you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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watcher13
MemberTry this piece of dontationware:
http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
It can unlock some files that are blocked from deletion, but not in use by Windows itself.
Of course, use with care.By the way, Merri, have you tried Windows built in startup manager? I assume you have. If not, type msconfig in the Run menu under the classic start menu, or it's under Administrative Tools>System Configuration in the Control Panel. It includes a startup manager. Don't have any of those games so I don't know if IWin shows up there. I assume it doesn't, since Gargoyle is talking about it being a service or a browser helper. On the other hand, if it adds itself to services it should show it under the services tab in msconfig and you can deselect it there. Good luck!
Posted 15 years ago # -
Alianthia
MemberI will definitely look into that, thanks!
I am so HAPPY to learn about the services section of the msconfig.
I had searched for anything in the start up section before and knew that iwin wasn't there.
But I was surprised to see two items loitering under the SERVICES section, so deselected both.
Thanks again!
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g@rgoyle
ModeratorHi Merri,
Sorry that it took so long to get back, I just woke up with a keyboard imprint on my forehead.
It's been a while since I removed Iwin from my computer. I remember that msconfig showed IwinTrusted, but I don't remember if it showed the hook. There are two tabs in WinPatrol that will show you if msconfig did the job.
Under the "Services" tab : highlight the Iwin file and look at what it says in the "Startup" column. It should say "disabled". If it doesn't then you can click the "Info" button on the bottom right, choose "disabled" in the little drop-down menu, click "Apply" and close the pop-up screen.
Under the "IE Helpers" tab : right-click on the Iwin file and select "Delete File on Reboot".
When you've checked all the (Iwin) files that you want to get rid of then it's time to reboot. After that you can manually delete the files that you'd set to "disabled" with either msconfig or WinPatrol and it wouldn't hurt to check if the browser helper is really gone.
Empty the bin to clear the file(s) that you deleted and they should be gone for good ;-)
Regards,
LanPosted 15 years ago # -
Magicool1
MemberHi All
When I posted details of the 'Incredimail' game give-away, I had no idea that it would cause such controversy and aggravation, especially for you 'Merri'. I am sorry to have been the messenger. However, that said I am at a loss as to the reason you are having the problems that you are? As I myself downloaded, installed, played and un-installed the current game, without incident.
My PC setup is
WinXP SP3.
Ashampoo Firewall, (Running)
Spyware Terminator, (Running)
Avast Anti-Virus, (Running)
MalwareBytes AntiMalware,
Secunia PSI,
Advanced Windows Care,
Dr. Web Cure It,
RegscrubVistaXP,
Ultimate Defrag,
AVG Root Kit,
Spyware Blaster,
All Freeware.Incredimail is my email client and has been for several years (Free Version of course, I'm a Freeware Junkie)
I ran 'msconfig' and saw nothing linking to either 'IWin' or 'Oberon Games'. I also ran 'Trojan Remover' (30 day trial) Full System Scan - nothing to report. So, apart from the scaremongering in the EULA, which is much of a muchness these days. As everyone has to cover their backs, one way or another and a disclaimer is as good a way as any. After all everyone likes free stuff and what better way would there be for a potential virus or malware threat to launch itself onto the unsuspecting masses?! That's why my motto is...
You can NEVER have enough protection!
Posted 15 years ago # -
Magicool1
MemberRosnSC
Very true, please pardon me for not being more precise. But I didn't advocate that you should double up on anything. ie running similar software in unison. It could be a recipe for disaster.
I've just noticed I have left an important programme off my list. I don't know how, as I use it at least 4-5 times a day... I am referring to the brilliant Ccleaner! :¬]
Posted 15 years ago # -
Alianthia
MemberHey there Magicool1!!!
It's ok, it wasn't me that had difficulties with the IM game, but Dragon Lair (I think?)
I had just expressed annoyance with the Iwin Hook sitting on my hard drive...
I am enjoying the IM game; it is QUITE challenging but I started it again without the timer which makes a HUGE difference..lol.
Take care!
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Alianthia
MemberLan, I got Winpatrol and got rid of the IE "hook" for iwin..so happy!!!
Many thanks again!
The other item that I was wondering about is this
em.exec.exe..
I found that
it relates to my logitech mouse but is really only for something called,"smart move" which I don't use.
It takes up a LOT of my computer's memory and I usually disable it before playing games.
Now I wondered how to disable it from starting when windows does...
Is it related to Logi_MWX.exe? and could it be disabled ?
thanks in advance...
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pavid
gamer extraordinaire & knowledgeable computer nerd who likes to argue, but is still a very nice guyMerri - Smart Move means that your mouse cursor jumps automatically to the default button in any pop-up message boxes. You can turn this off in the Setpoint software that Logitec provides to enable all the special functions of its mice. Setpoint also contains the appropriate drivers for your mouse. You don't really need Smart Move but I do find it handy. I have always used Logitec mice and have never seen a file called em.exec.exe. Are you sure this is a Logitec file? A search of my system does not find that particular file.
Posted 15 years ago # -
Alianthia
MemberHi pavid..
oh ok, I have appreciated that option so maybe I will just do as I have been doing and disable it before playing games.
Here's the info about em.exec.exe
from
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/em_exec.exe.htmlProcess name: Logitech Mouse Application
Product: MouseWare
Company: Logitech
File: em_exec.exe
Security Rating:
(Low, almost non existent)"Logitech Mouse tray icon from which you can access the Control Panel Mouse properties and help."
(oh yes, my logitech mouse is not cordless ;terrible dinosaur..lol)
thanks!
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02Gram09
MemberMerri, I have no idea what site you were at but I have been using Freeride.com for several months now without any adverse affects to my computer. The hidden object games are free and in english without any limit on playing them. Their About Us page is the usual. Below is their privacy policy which again is par for the course.
PRIVACY POLICY
1. Exent thanks you for visiting our Site. Your privacy is important to us. To better protect your privacy when using the Site and/or any of its features, we recommend that you read this Privacy Policy before accessing the Site. Please note that by accessing and/or using the Site and/or any feature and/or application and/or part thereof, you represent that you have read this Privacy Policy, understand it, accepted it and agreed to abide by its terms.
2. The Information We Collect:
* Generally, we do not collect Personally Identifiable Information ("PII") without specific permission from you. However, we may require that you provide us with certain PII as a condition for you accessing and/or using certain parts of the Site, including downloading of the Software. If you choose to do so, such PII may be collected by any of the Companies. In any event, we will not knowingly collect any PII from children 13 years old and under.
* Each of the Companies may gather certain non Personally Identifiable Information ("Non-PII") about you and/or your usage of the Site, the Service and/or any part thereof, including the pages you visit on the Site, advertisements seen in any Application, any progress you made in any game and/or other applications, zip code, age etc. The Non-PII gathered and tracked will not be used by the Companies to attempt to identify you personally. Exent and/or any of the Companies may, however, use it for effective advertising on the Site and/or on any of the Applications.
* Each of the Companies may employ other companies and individuals to perform functions on their behalf, such as technical support services. To perform those functions, it may be necessary for them to obtain access to each of the Companies' databases and servers, which may contain PII about users.
* Information about the advertisements you watch, on the Site and/or on the Application, may also be collected. For every advertisement you view while using the Application the Software transmits and stores the following information from your computer: Your IP Address, which may include a domain name; the name of the game in which the advertisement appeared; the location, size, display time and display duration of the advertisement in the game, other information about the advertisements and about the game session and the date and time the above information is logged.
* To enhance your experience with our Site, our web pages may use "cookies", which are text files we place in your computer's browser to store your preferences. Cookies, by themselves, do not tell us your e-mail address or other personally identifiable information unless you choose to provide this information to us. However, once you choose to furnish PII, this information may be linked to the data stored in the cookie. We use cookies to understand Site usage and to improve the content and offerings on our Site.
* Collection and Use of Registration and Usage Information. Each of the Companies will collect data regarding what Applications you use, how long you use them and in which ways you use them (collectively, your "Usage Information"). You acknowledge that the Service Provider has agreed to provide your Usage Information to each of the Companies (without specifically identifying you). You agree that each of the Companies may use your Usage Information, inter alia, by aggregating it with the Usage Information of other users of the Software to provide general statistics about the Applications on Demand Services.
3. How we use the information we collect:
* Each of the Companies may collect, store, use and disclose the information you provide in accordance with its then current Privacy Policy.
* The information is collected for the primary purpose of enhancing your experience of using our Site, e.g., to respond to your inquiries about our services, to offer you Applications or other products, programs or services that we believe may be of interest to you etc.
* We may sometimes use the information that we collect to communicate with you, such as to notify you of changes me made to the Agreement or to contact you about your account with us.
* We sometimes use the information that we collect to improve the design and content of our Site and to enable us to personalize your experience. Each of the Companies may also use this information in the aggregate to analyze site usage and share such information with third party for purposes of managing and targeting advertisements and/or for market research analysis.
4. Miscellaneous
* Companies do not assure you that such information will never be disclosed in a manner that is inconsistent with this Privacy Policy.
* Our Site may contain links to other sites whose information practices may be different than ours. You should consult the other sites' privacy policies as we have no control over information that is submitted to, or collected by, these sites.
* In the event that each of the Companies or substantially all of their assets are sold or acquired, the Site and all information collected by the Site would be transferred to the acquiring party.
* You agree that any information you provide to any Company, including without limitation, any information you provide to any of the companies when you use the Site and/or use and/or register to the Service shall be accurate and truthful.
* CHILDREN 13 AND UNDER - If you are thirteen years old or younger, we will not collect, store or use your PII. In addition, parents or guardians of children at any age should be aware that the Site is designed to appeal to a broad audience. Accordingly, it is your responsibility to determine whether any portion of the Site is inappropriate for your child.
Posted 15 years ago # -
02Gram09
MemberTizz what is a WOT Red warning screen? I have been using the site for several months now without any problems. Have no idea at all as to what Merri is talking about. I have been successfully been able to read their "About Us". Below is their privacy Policy.
PRIVACY POLICY
1. Exent thanks you for visiting our Site. Your privacy is important to us. To better protect your privacy when using the Site and/or any of its features, we recommend that you read this Privacy Policy before accessing the Site. Please note that by accessing and/or using the Site and/or any feature and/or application and/or part thereof, you represent that you have read this Privacy Policy, understand it, accepted it and agreed to abide by its terms.
2. The Information We Collect:
* Generally, we do not collect Personally Identifiable Information ("PII") without specific permission from you. However, we may require that you provide us with certain PII as a condition for you accessing and/or using certain parts of the Site, including downloading of the Software. If you choose to do so, such PII may be collected by any of the Companies. In any event, we will not knowingly collect any PII from children 13 years old and under.
* Each of the Companies may gather certain non Personally Identifiable Information ("Non-PII") about you and/or your usage of the Site, the Service and/or any part thereof, including the pages you visit on the Site, advertisements seen in any Application, any progress you made in any game and/or other applications, zip code, age etc. The Non-PII gathered and tracked will not be used by the Companies to attempt to identify you personally. Exent and/or any of the Companies may, however, use it for effective advertising on the Site and/or on any of the Applications.
* Each of the Companies may employ other companies and individuals to perform functions on their behalf, such as technical support services. To perform those functions, it may be necessary for them to obtain access to each of the Companies' databases and servers, which may contain PII about users.
* Information about the advertisements you watch, on the Site and/or on the Application, may also be collected. For every advertisement you view while using the Application the Software transmits and stores the following information from your computer: Your IP Address, which may include a domain name; the name of the game in which the advertisement appeared; the location, size, display time and display duration of the advertisement in the game, other information about the advertisements and about the game session and the date and time the above information is logged.
* To enhance your experience with our Site, our web pages may use "cookies", which are text files we place in your computer's browser to store your preferences. Cookies, by themselves, do not tell us your e-mail address or other personally identifiable information unless you choose to provide this information to us. However, once you choose to furnish PII, this information may be linked to the data stored in the cookie. We use cookies to understand Site usage and to improve the content and offerings on our Site.
* Collection and Use of Registration and Usage Information. Each of the Companies will collect data regarding what Applications you use, how long you use them and in which ways you use them (collectively, your "Usage Information"). You acknowledge that the Service Provider has agreed to provide your Usage Information to each of the Companies (without specifically identifying you). You agree that each of the Companies may use your Usage Information, inter alia, by aggregating it with the Usage Information of other users of the Software to provide general statistics about the Applications on Demand Services.
3. How we use the information we collect:
* Each of the Companies may collect, store, use and disclose the information you provide in accordance with its then current Privacy Policy.
* The information is collected for the primary purpose of enhancing your experience of using our Site, e.g., to respond to your inquiries about our services, to offer you Applications or other products, programs or services that we believe may be of interest to you etc.
* We may sometimes use the information that we collect to communicate with you, such as to notify you of changes me made to the Agreement or to contact you about your account with us.
* We sometimes use the information that we collect to improve the design and content of our Site and to enable us to personalize your experience. Each of the Companies may also use this information in the aggregate to analyze site usage and share such information with third party for purposes of managing and targeting advertisements and/or for market research analysis.
4. Miscellaneous
* Companies do not assure you that such information will never be disclosed in a manner that is inconsistent with this Privacy Policy.
* Our Site may contain links to other sites whose information practices may be different than ours. You should consult the other sites' privacy policies as we have no control over information that is submitted to, or collected by, these sites.
* In the event that each of the Companies or substantially all of their assets are sold or acquired, the Site and all information collected by the Site would be transferred to the acquiring party.
* You agree that any information you provide to any Company, including without limitation, any information you provide to any of the companies when you use the Site and/or use and/or register to the Service shall be accurate and truthful.
* CHILDREN 13 AND UNDER - If you are thirteen years old or younger, we will not collect, store or use your PII. In addition, parents or guardians of children at any age should be aware that the Site is designed to appeal to a broad audience. Accordingly, it is your responsibility to determine whether any portion of the Site is inappropriate for your child.
Posted 15 years ago # -
Alianthia
MemberHi 02Gram09..
I got that info from their "_terms of use_" section
(It's always good to read everything they have, IMHO)
Here is the link:
http://www.freeridegames.com/do/general?partner=Default&jspName=terms
My quote is taken from the #4 entry..
Interesting as I still get nothing displayed when I click on "about us"..are you using firefox or IE?Posted 15 years ago # -
02Gram09
MemberHi Merri, Re: (4. CONTAMINATED DATA AND MALICIOUS APPLICATIONS
"You hereby acknowledge and understand that by using the Internet and/or the Site and/or the Service (including by mere access) and/or the Software and/or the service provided by the Service) NOTE: USING THE INTERNET, which applies to all websites including Game Giveaway and this forum. As long as your virus, spyware and firewall are up to date as mine are you should not have a problem.I only use Firefox. As I stated previously, I have been using freeridegames, for several months and have not have any problems. I have played several of their games. My virus, spyware and firewall are all up to date and yes I do use Ccleaner also. Don't understand why you don't get anything displayed when you click on the "about us". I tried to copy and paste it but it only copied, could not paste in this forum.
Posted 15 years ago # -
02Gram09
MemberMerri, I went and tried again to copy and past the about us and here it is:
Free Ride Games is the only 100% free service that provides dozens of premium full-download PC casual games. We cover a wide variety of game genres such as Hidden Object, Match Three and Time Management, as well as the most popular titles such as the Diner Dash and Build-a-lot series, The Treasures of Montezuma, The Secret of Margrave Manor, and many more.
With our downloadable player, you can access our games directly. Our technology is 100% safe and secure, with no malware or spyware.
Why pay for a game, or only get 60 minutes free elsewhere when you can play the entire game as often as you like, completely free?
Posted 15 years ago # -
Alianthia
MemberHi 02Gram 09!
thanks for the info, it is odd that it doesn't come up on my computer...
The site sounds good and if you haven't been experiencing trouble that is good too!
I am sure that Mostfun and Gamehouse have much the same info if one "drills" down through the EULA's as has been said here previously.
Does Freeride games display ads ?Posted 15 years ago # -
I tried to go there and Internet Security | WOT Web of Trust gave it a BIG black and red screen with ALL red ratings. I usually use WOT as a guide but with game sites...I usually don't take chances. So I didn't even try to go. No game is worth it.
Make sure you use EULAlyzer® if you download a game. It might be interesting to see what is in there..... since Merri found that other interesting part in another EULA which really should raise some doubts and fears. Such as "You may be exposed to contaminated files, computer viruses, eavesdropping, harassment, electronic trespassing, hacking and other harmful acts or consequences that might lead to unauthorized invasion of privacy, loss of data and other damages. Furthermore, by installing the client side of the Software on Your computer, You understand that: (i) certain system non-personally identifiable information, including statistical data, stored on Your computer will be made available and transmittable to other servers; (ii) other information available now or in the future on the Site and/or Service including links, services, messages advertisements, cookies and the like may be installed on Your computer and; (iii) each of the Companies may automatically transmit to and install on Your computer, software improvements, corrections, adaptations, conversions to more recent Software versions or any other changes to update the Software."
Merri, you are correct. Pretty scary! Sounds like they can go "in and out" of your PC as they wish.
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