copmom
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Good morning all.
my_name_is_ : Creating a backup image of the XP install on the new machine?
As for the XP install.. that's one thing I do, when I get a new machine is request they send me all the installation disks which they did.
Thank you VERY much for that link! It does explain how to do the dual boot in simple terms that even I can follow!! LOL That just might be the way to go.. keep the new machine set for dual boot as the back up for the old one in case it really does die!
copmom
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goody.. thanks for the offer! Just might need to take you up on it! The old machine "was" up and running Saturday until yesterday AM! Now whenever I click on any program (and there's hardly anything installed on it), I just get the dreaded blue screen 'fatal exception 06' and some numbers, and/or 'system busy or unstable'. So, I guess it was more than just the fan that's wrong with it! Originally I thought I could just take the HD out of it and pop it into the new machine (if needed), but oldie is IDE and new one is SATA.. so that won't work! My tech guy is coming back up today to see if he can help but at this point we are dead in the water!
copmom
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goody.. always use the vacuum at least once a month on the insides. He didn't make it up today .. said tomorrow. First he's having his daughter get anything off the HD that he's removing from theirs so she can have her stuff on her laptop. Also, my friend just brought me a copy of Norton Ghost V14.0 which I can make good use of!
goodgotd
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you should be able to access the data on the drive hooking into one of the legacy pata ports. expect it to change your drive letters. in odd ways sometimes. usually 2 legacy pata, each can handle 2 drives, unlike sata.
if you try to boot it in another machine (like unplugging the sata drive so it's the only drive seen) expect to need to supply a metric buttload of drivers and reboot a bunch of times, make sure to get win98 drivers for all the new hardware first, too.
been there done that, it's a pain.
copmom
Member
Well guess what! Now I'm getting really confused. First I tried installing Norton Ghost.. didn't work! Second I was using Acronis True Image last night, and was going to make a 'copy' of my current HD.. well, it erased my F: drive, and it disappeared! Had to go to My computer to get that back again, so now it's blank. But, when it was going to copy, noticed it would make my F: drive into another C: and to remove current C: drive. I didn't want to have 2 C: drives here.. that wouldn't work! I guess that's so I could pop my new C: drive into the new computer to make it the same as this one. But wouldn't that mess up the new machines system settings.. like drivers, etc.???
NOW today's email I get a notice that our old label program (that will ONLY work on Win95/98) is now offered by Avanquest (used to be My Software), for 98, XP, Vista, etc., and I had called them to see if there was an update for XP just last week and was told NO! I think I'll go back to bed and wake up again to start this day all over again!
LeKanaw
Member
Bonsoir Lauri :*)
Phiewww, found you finally!!
Been looking for this post, didn't think of looking on the Vista thread!
Yap, the stars are not aligned in the right direction!!
Darn indeed ...
Don't know what to say ...
But the offer still stands, my friend!!!!
Say the word I'll send you that "Thingy"!! You need it more than I do!
Plus, I can hold your hand, cause this unending succession of problems must be messing w your nerves!!
I'll be out tomorrow till late.
Talk to you folks Friday
copmom
Member
Just reporting in! ALL IS WELL! Got the new program set up on the new XP computer and set up all our files within the program, and viola! It works, our printer works, (did have to get an adaptor at Radio Shack so the printers parallel plug would plug into a USB port), but, we are now up and running once again! Ta daaaaaaaaa!
Thanks for all the offers trying to help me out! You've all been great! If we had gone the old win98 route on an older machine I would just be putting off the inevitable and then still have to convert at a later date when that machine went out.
Bigun
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Goodgotd:
You and I have used the exact same of equipment and processors. I think you left one out. That oversight is more likely due to a memory lapse than it is of a lack of experience. That would be the Motorola 1600 . That processor found a home in many household appliances such as clothes dryers and clothes irons. The term "microprocessor" was just starting to be used. A phrase that saw a lot of use was "it must be due to a computer error". For several years "computer error" took the blame for almost any mistake that involved a calculation or vector drawings.
I still have several breadboards with a Motorola 1600, Intel 8080, or Intel 8800, plugged into them. Sounds like you might too. Wasn't manually typing machine language or hexadecimal instructions and then using shift registers etc. as the means of moving data through the pathways of a machine fun? You can complain about Vista but it does beat the old days. "The good old days, I hope they never come again.(W.C. Fields)" Machines, large and small, ran one program at a time.
I remember a time when operating systems (per se) didn't exist. It was strictly machine language so everybody used the exact same operating system - sort of. Compatibility, or lack of it, was an issue for computers even at that time. I built a nice computer while in high school out of TTL logic chips. I added to and subtracted from that machine for several years. Much of that time was spent trying to interface my computer with my ham radio gear. And, Whiterabbit, I did not have an expensive set up then nor do I have one now. I probably only had $120 to $130 invested in the entire project. Much of my expenditure was for the wire I used to fabricate my antennas. Darn if that thing (computer) didn't have compatibility issues way back then. It was next to impossible to interface TTL with RTL, or DTL logic. RTL was the favorite son and it was being heavily used because of its power handling capabilities.
Heidihopes, you mentioned earlier a marketing strategy ........ that was the time when strategies were born. Many business plans went awry and big companies such as IBM, teetered on going out of business. I see today's Microsoft assuming the same place in the market that IBM held while struggling for survival.
Goodgotd, there are probably still folks out there that remember CP/M. Besides using CP/M I used an offshoot of CP/M called MP/M (a multiuser CP/M system). I wonder if you are familiar with MP/M? I have never found anyone outside of a small group of friends that I had back then who have even heard of MP/M. Are you an exception to that rule?
I hope that those of you that started this thread will return and add more of your interesting experiences to this part of the forum.
Bigun
goodgotd
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yep, the 1600's and the other lower-profile processors- remember the 44xx series of 4 bit 'cpu's'?- (yes, I agree that entering machine code by hand, flipping switches on the front panel, double checking, punching the 'set location and increment address' switch, then repeat till your fingers fell off... even just a bootloader and then starting the paper tape through the teletype 33 well and truly s*cked- and poking and peeking via rom basic wasn't fun- and by then you could actually save and restore from audio tape, ooh! dos was a dream come true in some ways, but I still think vista is a step too far unless you can afford a new computer or have to buy one- and then I'd prefer a downgrade just because I hate being on the bleeding-out-edge.) were the chinese curse kind of fun. I ran into them- painfully- several places.
OTOH, I once found a half a ton of prototype commercial kitchen timers at a northern california metal scrap yard- 453 of them- each with 6- 0.3" socketed 7-segment led displays and a socketed 8085 cpu with on-die uveprom.
bought the lot for the weight of stainless steel scrap (the cases- $2 a pound- <grin>), then ran them 350 miles down to Mike Quinn's electronic surplus in Oakland and turned them over to Mike (for the cpu's alone- tossed the rest in for his labor pulling the boards out) for a profit after gas of $2.83 each. sweet time.
I barely brushed against MP/M, barely got introduced before I ended up running a video arcade and doubling as a soda jerk for several years- I do have an S-100 system with Oasis 8-bit and a 20 meg 8" fujitsu hdd stored here, though. IIRC it's related in places. I rather liked IBM PC-DOS 7 multiuser running remote serial terminals, brought back memories.
"Machines, large and small, ran one program at a time"- ohyeah- one *small* program, *slowly*. 4k memory upgrades *hurt*.
well, mainframes like the Honeywell 6000 series I trained on the year before the micros showed up (1976, that is- I think it was 24 or 36 bit- the DEC PDP-8L mini in the classroom was 12 bit & I still have the core memory- wish I had that line printer!) sure time-shared like a bandit- for the time.
it was right painful porting a BASIC program over to the 8080 micro, making it fit- and then seeing how slooooow it ran.
The athlon xp in the other room could kick the H-6000's bits in most categories but power draw... you could run this *town* on the output from the UPS multiple motor-generator sets that kept it on-line.
come to think of it, I may still have a video game X-Y monitor that used one of that class cpu to translate the digital input into sweep commands. Armor Attack 19" b-w.
Anonymous
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http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080919/hi-im-a-pc-and-i-was-made-on-a-mac/
Hi. I’m a PC … and I Was Made on a Mac
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/shattered_dreams_and_broken_promises_vistas_failure_launch
Exclusive Interview: Microsoft Admits What Went Wrong with Vista, and How They Fixed It
Anonymous
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=10303&tag=nl.e550 * IT departments are largely ignoring Vista.Let’s look at the five most important reasons why Vista failed.
Vista has over 50 million lines of code. XP had 35 million when it was released.
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