Thank you for all your hard work Bubby (and the rest of the moderators and Admins). You've certainly helped me in the comments section regarding flamers, and I appreciate what you hav done. I agree wholeheartedly with what you've said above as I do with Idhals comment. Keep up the great work. I do hope this continues into the forseeable future as I've gained some brilliant software, some of which I've since bought thanks to this project.
Why complain (every day) ?
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As long as a TRUCK filled with ICE CREAM shows up at grandma's before I'm done with my coffee, you won't see me throwing any rotten APPLES at her. The analogies in this thread remind me of the SAT's tests - Cat is to kitten as Dog is to {fleas? bone? drool?}
IMHO, GAOTD's all volunteer army is doing a fine job of feeding the need for free, and keeping the place neat and orderly. BubbyCo's doing a yeoman's job moderating boards dawn to dusk to dawn for nothing but tips and what he can drink out of half-empty glasses. He even considers leniency pleas from the canaille. (and he only erases my totally off-topic prose when it looks like a hijacking's about to take place.)
This site would might make a good case study for someone chasing a Psychology degree. What happens when people of all ages discover that something of value is given away FREE everyday?
You need only look at the bloated US entitlement programs or the foreign aid dispensed by many institutions and countries to intuit the correct answer. Gifts win little appreciation, respect or loyalty, end up spoiling the recipients some of whom begin to expect the largesse as some sort of inalienable "right" instead of philanthropy. (regardless whether there exists a hidden marketing, PR or beta testing agenda) They lose sight of the fact they're under no obligation to visit, or accept/use the gifts. They become greedy, whiny and nitpicky. It ain't pretty... it's human nature.
Instead of giving ungrateful people gifts so they can play each day, I say teach them how to write code so they can play with themselves! No, wait, that's not how that saying goes.
This is why golden geese rarely show themselves in public.
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Cat is to kitten as Dog is to {fleas? bone? drool?}
**Me raising hand and waving** "Me, me, me, I know the answer! The answer is 'Tired', yeah, that's it!"
Dog....tired..... Yes?
{Now, where's that durned goose??}
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>RunesageMagi
You do have a point, but remember that not all of the games offered have even been worth money. Would you willingly pay for a Magnussoft or DoubleGames game? There's a difference between fresh, boring apples(Alawar) and rotten apples/plates of dirt(Magnussoft). I can't think of a way to comment without complaining about those games, and they're bad enough that people feel obligated to. I understand not liking complaints about having a particular genre of games(I support complaining about months of them, though), but sometimes there's just nothing to say besides "it suxs".
Oh, and welfare should be abolished, forcing bums to work.
Oh, and why do people on this site feel compelled to type FREE in ALLCAPS? It's like some stupid spam email.
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Lockette, I'm unwilling to pay for much of anything besides Netflix and food. So what if many of the games are boring, or childish and not worth money to an avid gamer? Did anyone pay to visit this site? Did anyone promise that even one expensive game would be free? Remember, a lot of starving kids in {insert 3rd world country of your choice here} go to bed each night without any programs on their computer. This site is called Giveaway of the DAY. If they called it the AWESOME BUGFREE Giveaway, or PRO GAMER PRIMO Giveaway, or FORTUNE 500 APPROVED Giveaway, maybe complainers would have a leg to stand on.
As it is, the dissatisfied keep showing up and complaining about the dearth of quality games, or ragging on not quite ready for prime time software despite their sometimes painfully obvious lack of computer expertise and poor reading comprehension. (I mean, every day, a baker's dozen admit they can't follow directions to activate before installing, or don't comprehend what a DAY-long installation window means) If someone doesn't have anything good to say, they can go visit the other sites that give away great exciting games every day. Here's a list:
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.IMHO, saying "this sux" is your right, but it's not helpful to the developer or readers. If too many things suk, logic suggests there would be fewer and fewer visitors, which might spur GAOTD to beat the bushes for NONsucky games, or change the site name to GAOTWeek.
Contributors who gripe AND offer legit alternate programs are welcome; but it's often tough to slog through all the crap posts to find an articulate one. Supports the old adage that it's better to remain silent if you don't know what you're talking about than open your mouth and remove all doubt. (I didn't mean YOU when I typed "you") Might be interesting to see what would happen if GAOTD instituted a program of appending large blinking icons to each poster's alias.
They'd give me the bloviating gasbag icon.
I know a pair of icons K8 should get based on her self description. :-)
Complainers would quickly earn the garbage can icon.
Those unable to decipher 3-step README instructions get a dunce cap icon.Seriously, free programs don't grow on trees. You don't see Adobe, Symantec, Borland or Oracle beating a path to our door. We have NO idea how difficult it is for GAOTD to convince developers to offer free* software, yet they make something (actually 2 things... appl and game appl) available every day, except on Lithuania's National No Giveaway Day. Their powers of persuasion are impressive.
Wonder if any complainer spends time lobbying developers to put their wares on the chopping block? Has GAOTD invested much time lobbying the thousands of innovative but little known postcard/donate type programmers who might like some publicity? Will they add a Starving Programmers page? Of course, top programmers probably wouldn't want to endure an endless, unproductive barrage of complaints.
*Well, at least I didn't capitalize every use of FREE. Ooops. Netiquette only frowns on capitalizing all words in a post (unless it's to flame BubbyCo), not for acronyms, roman numerals or for emphasizing a favorite word.
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Fwf - go to the head of detention class! Sorry, I ate the goose. urp
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You do have a point, but remember that not all of the games offered have even been worth money.
To date, I'm not aware anyone has been required to pay any money to download and play a game from this site. You should be thankful the game was free.
Would you willingly pay for a Magnussoft or DoubleGames game?
I don't know that I would pay $100,000 for a car either. I only think cars are worth $20,000. But there are people around who spend $100,000 without a second thought. People pay how much they believe software is worth. If the games are too expensive - people don't buy them.
There's a difference between fresh, boring apples(Alawar) and rotten apples/plates of dirt(Magnussoft). I can't think of a way to comment without complaining about those games, and they're bad enough that people feel obligated to.
You are never obligated to complain or even comment. Have you considered commenting to be helpful? Imagine this game is the first or second attempt of a game the programmer has ever made. Imagine she is 17 years old. The price was set by the publisher. She really would like to make a career from game development. You could pass on some suggestions, explain what it is you think could be changed or added/removed that would make the game better or more fun. Maybe suggest some other games in a similar fashion that demonstrate the points you are trying to make.
After all, from reading the gaming comments (complaints) we have dozens of players who know enough about gaming that they could have 3 or 4 best-sellers of their own each year (if only they knew how to program). If you are going to comment on somebodies program or idea - type as if you are speaking to them in person.
To Act like someone who has just been held down and had rancid pig fat poured down your throat, then poked in the eye with sharp sticks for an hour, before having your wallet stolen - then released to a keyboard, once you are really really mad - to express just how angry you were subjected to such a nightmarish ordeal... that certainly helps everyone.
I understand not liking complaints about having a particular genre of games(I support complaining about months of them, though), but sometimes there's just nothing to say besides "it suxs".
I think if all you can come up with as a comment is "it suxs", well you obviously haven't thought enough about your comment. Was it too hard for you? It wouldn't install, didn't like the music, graphics were too small, game ran too slow, too easy, not enough levels, hard to control, don't like the style of game, collision detection, too much hdd required, hard to understand, no tutorial, lost interest, didn't actually try it - but everyone doesn't like it and I just like to see my name in the comments, I have a reputation of being critical of everything - so people think I know a lot... you get the idea.
It sux. (a recursive statement? "It sux", sux)
Oh, and why do people on this site feel compelled to type FREE in ALLCAPS?
They don't - I just moderate it that way. :)
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I think that something we should all keep in mind, is a bit of information that Lockett shared with us during the first posts he/she made to this forum, that being the fact that Locket is 14 years old.
UIGM
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Well I think it applies to everyone.... "you are never too young to grow up, if you want to be treated like one". And particularly on the internet where you can participate as an equal, people do need to give consideration to what they say and where they are when they say it. Two different sites may promote different standards of behavior and language - and people should respect that.
I would hope that here the atmosphere is friendly, informal, relaxed and helpful. I would like to think that anyone can ask for help or offer assistance. To always focus on being critical, negative and what is wrong - is very draining & no fun at all.
As my old boss used to say when something was wrong/broken/needed improving - "unless you know how to make it right/fix it/how to make it better - keep your pearly wisdom to yourself" - for example - yes everyone can see there is "a problem" with the game - we don't need 20 people to march up and say "it sux", because that doesn't FIX IT. It's not a popular vote where if enough people say "it sux" then it becomes official. You're not demonstrating your extraterrestrial intelligence by stating the bleeding obvious (along with everyone else).
If you cannot offer something positive to perhaps make things better - or find a way the software can be used so it doesn't "suck as much" - then you are only in the way and "pssing off" those of us who would like to find a solution or get it fixed.
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Fine. You guys are right. I did say that there needs to be more constructive criticism and less mindless bashing, but there will always be mindless bashing. I was actually quoting Whiterabbit about the "it suxs" thing - I've forgotten his original comment, but it's there.
As for non-constructive comments, it works the other way, too. How many inane comments like, "this software is awesome," or, "Whiterabbit writes the BEST reviews," or, "I love this game, and so do my kids," do you have to wade through as well? On average, twice as many. I could tell people to stop saying that, too, but it would be pointless. In a perfect world, all of the comments would point out the pros and cons of the games/utilities, but it isn't one - so why bother?
>RunesageMagi
I agree that there's no way that we'll get top-of-the-line million-dollar-development products, but I don't believe that the site only gets one choice most of the time. I don't think that it's bad netiquette to type a SPECIFIC word in ALLCAPS, but it just looks spammy.
>BuBBy
It is by definition a "popular vote" if a bunch of people vote thumbs-down or say that they didn't like a game. I have "offered something positive to perhaps make things better". I've written honest reviews reflecting what I think about the games(my earlier ones were horrible, but I've developed a structure since then). And I will defend both people who complain and people who compliment alike as long as I visit this site.
By the way, I'm a member of a certain forum called Shmup-Dev - most of the members are teenagers, and most of the members make commercial-quality games. We've had four contests, all with high-quality entries, and one was even featured on TIGSource's Best Games of 2007 list. I suggest visiting the contest pages - there are some really good entries.
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Hi, Lockett,
I rarely say this, but I ENVY you. Being 14-ish at this stage in the High Tech/Computer/Internet dev phase must be awesome. Long before you were even born, geezers like me were dealing with -
mainframes the size of rooms;
5' tall stacks of punchcards just to create primitive symaps; 24-hour turnarounds just to get a single freaking result or learn we forget a single command line that resulted in zip...or worse, an endless loop, thousands of pages of wasted greenbar paper and a bankrupting of our college computer account limit.I keep my HP Touchscreen and a Zork game, my first PONG console, and a 300kb modem as reminders of days gone by. You'd die of boredom trying to have fun with those, but we were THRILLED at the time.
So, it's great that you're already involved with a group of peers creating the next-gen games. (and hopefully other types of software) I hope your group contacts GAOTD and offers up something. Games, utilities, even your technical expertise! I predict you'd get publicity, feedback (hopefully not a lot of "it sux") and maybe even a paying gig somewhere.
I don't believe that the site only gets one choice most of the time
You may be right, but suppose they haven't got any other developers in the queue and NEED a week or two or three to negotiate, install the registration codes, etc. Other developers have their own timetables and don't dance to GAOTD's tune. I've worked for developers. They all say it'll be ready in a week, but when they tell their programmers they've committed to having something done in a week, the programmers laugh/groan and say, "A week with bugs, a month for the beta... maybe." Trust me - delayed gratification is something you really need to practice... before you get your first credit card!
Bubby reiterates what I alluded to... constructive feedback is welcomed because it helps programmers tweak or massively overhaul their programs. "It's great" is welcomed because it tells the programmer he did things correctly. "It sux" SUX, because it offers the programmer absolutely no guidance. I also concur with his assessment that GAOTD's topic-based forums are some of the most civil, friendly boards around. Sadly, GAOTD's feedback boards for individual products are less civil. That's because passion and ignorance aren't mutually exclusive traits.
BTW - I was turning ransom note style posts into a high art form long before you were able to reach a keyboard, so please, don't call me spammy without at least saying "Sir". :-)
Posted 16 years ago # -
RM. LOWER CASE WAS A LUXURY THAT WAS ONLY INVEnted halfway through my computing history. :)
Posted 16 years ago # -
Hey there BubbyCO, ah yes, the ALL CAPS parade!
GOTO
IF
REM
ELSE CALL OUT
INITIALIZE ARRAYS TO ZERO
SET
READ
FORMAT
SUBROUTINE OUTPUT (A,B,C)
DO LOOPS
and all the fun doodles... er, YES/NO flowchartsarrrgghhhhhh (geezer rolls eyes and spots 1972 copy of "A Guide to Fortran IV Programming" on his dusty shelf next to the dayglo t-shirts, and wonders what happened to those brave souls who mastered Fortran II... oh the humanity! Could you be one of them?)
My final project consisted of two 5' stacks of little cardboard boxes all packed with keypunch cards that had to be wheeled back and forth to the mainframe, all to produce a small, shaded map of some western state's rainfall totals in 1969! For safety's sake, I recall running a different colored magic marker down the spine of each set so if they ever spilled out on the floor, it wouldn't be too hard to reassemble them. sheesh
Did you perchance misplace my PM query about Dead Link Tester, or have you just been too swamped with complaints and hijackings? Oh, and thanks a bunch for that Open Source Directory... more programs to download! arrrgghhhhhh
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Stop it guys, you are making me all misty eyed.....remember the first computer magazines? The first time I went to buy a computer, they wouldn't even tell me how much they cost because #1, I was a girl, #2 I couldn't tell them what I wanted it for. I remember being so mad I could have just spit! I was programming graphics and games on a borrowed computer at home(saving to tape,and praying that I got a good copy), but I wanted one of my own and I wanted an Amiga. Two computer stores in the city but neither one would sell me a computer... Then one evening a brand new program came on TV, it was called "The Home Shopping" program, and guess what...they had 30 Amiga 500's for sale and they gave a price. The people selling them weren't even too sure what they were, but I knew. I couldn't get to the phone fast enough. A week later I had my computer and life for me has never been the same. A month later I was selling Amiga's from a new, third computer store, I was doing graphics and selling computers and I was the only female in the local computer club. I helped bury the two other stores that wouldn't sell me a computer:))))))
I was doing animations with half a meg ram! I remember when I upgraded to a full meg, went from the Fat Agnus to the Fatter Agnus. I was one of the first in the city to have a meg of memory, put it in myself, no easy trick at that time. Seagate was down the street(a filthy place littered with computer guts and overflowing ashtrays) and the cable shop was a few blocks away...many cables had to be hand made. It was like the wild west of computers. To make an animation the computer had to be hooked up to a TV and a tape deck, tape off a small segment of finished animation(no hard drives at the time)build the next segment...repeat. Edit from the master tape to the second generation tape. I still have a couple of those tapes and when we watch them now, I'm amazed at what I was doing with a meg:))) I remember my oldest son made his own animation for a report at school...he went to class with a tape only, nothing written. Played it, got a standing ovation and an A+, still makes me smile as no one had ever done that before at his school. Ah, good times, good times.Posted 16 years ago # -
>RunesageMagi
"I keep my HP Touchscreen and a Zork game, my first PONG console, and a 300kb modem as reminders of days gone by. You'd die of boredom trying to have fun with those, but we were THRILLED at the time."
Are you kidding? I love text-adventures! Zork is great(I'm still trying to learn Inform 7).
"So, it's great that you're already involved with a group of peers creating the next-gen games. (and hopefully other types of software) I hope your group contacts GAOTD and offers up something."
It would be pointless, since everything made is free. You're welcome to check the site out, though.
"You may be right, but suppose they haven't got any other developers in the queue and NEED a week or two or three to negotiate, install the registration codes, etc. Other developers have their own timetables and don't dance to GAOTD's tune. I've worked for developers. They all say it'll be ready in a week, but when they tell their programmers they've committed to having something done in a week, the programmers laugh/groan and say, 'A week with bugs, a month for the beta... maybe.'"
I never thought of that. That would explain it.
"Trust me - delayed gratification is something you really need to practice... before you get your first credit card!"
Har har. Like I'm getting a credit card."BTW - I was turning ransom note style posts into a high art form long before you were able to reach a keyboard, so please, don't call me spammy without at least saying 'Sir'. :-)"
Yes, sir.
Posted 16 years ago # -
OK... again it seems I have hijacked my own thread. :\
BTW - Still got my A500+A590 - best computer ever.
No more in this thread. (please) - I'll clean it up a little later.
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Lockette,
I may have spoken too soon (he says, pulling cobwebs out of his beard and dusting himself off after an adventure into the dark dank Cavern of Computer Arcana, otherwise known as the basement). Seems Zork has gone missing... or lies several layers of strata deeper than I dared crawl without a map. However, I did uncover:
two slightly mildewed boxes titled - "ADVENTURE" HP Series 200 (I do NOT remember this one... colorful serpent coiled around a treasure chest) Oh how misleading, as these games displayed nothing but tiny stick figures on an HP) -
and
Temples of Apshai - HP 150 (along with my handdrawn maps of Level 1, circa 12/83) means they're 10 years older than you!;
a bunch of 5" diskettes dating from the early 90's, including MEGATRON VGA;
Sargon III and Chessmaster 3000, and soooo much more.
Gads, I feel old. Forget calling me "sir", call me "gramps" and then buzz for the nurse.Hi, Idahl,
I mused on another thread about how I loved Amiga's MINDWALKER so much, I almost bought the computer just for that game. Do you know it? Guess that woulda been back around 1995. Those were the days. I wrote a program for the HP back in '83 that randomly cast 2 animated dice when you touched the screen. It impressed a software developer at the time, as did a prose adventure game I wrote; but I suppose they'd only elicit pity or laughter from Lockett'smodernday hackers.Bubby, please don't kill off the memories. Keep 'em alive!
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I remember when hard drives first became available to us mere mortals. I plopped down my $$ on a cutting-edge 50Meg hard drive, and waited with anticipation for it to arrive in the mail. They were so new that you couldn't just go to the local computer store that Idahl owned to buy one, you had to special order it.
Then came the fun and marvel of installation into my Amiga 500. Right in the center, towards the back of the motherboard if I recall correctly, and I'm sure I do, that being my first major upgrade of a computer.
Ah the freedom that hard drive gave me! No more 3.5 floppies to hassle with when I wanted to load a program into memory. Still had to boot off a floppy, of course, but things were getting better by leaps and bounds.
And even though a 50meg HD doesn't sound like much today, it was HUGE back then, yes? I mean, just remember that the size of most programs the Amiga ran were well under the 3.5 floppy size!
Yep, those were the days, using the CLI until I learned of this great program called Directory Opus. Changed my world forever!!
Matter of fact, to this day, guess what program I rely upon instead of icons and the desktop? :-) If I had to guess, I'd say that Directory Opus, in one incarnation or another, just might be the oldest of major computer programs around that is still available today.
Can anyone think of another program that's been around as long, and still in use?
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Myself, I only moan to myself, 'not another screensaver'; Some people like them, Sunday seems to be SS day, so I don't like I don't download.
Though today must be the best giveaway ever day.
Video watermark, brilliant, been waiting for a long time for that baby, nearly purchased it last year, but, got a new pair of shoes instead.
So you don't like, don't waste time moaning, just don't download, we are spoilt for choice already, it could be give away of the month.
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Know it?...had it and about five hundred other games, and two Amiga 500's...right up until this spring when they were washed away along with my son's house and most everything else they owned in the floods. That's why the games here have been such a blessing. My grandkids lost almost all their toys(and their dog).The games gave them something to look forward to and got the floodwater off their minds. GGAOTD has been one of the most appreciated breaks in an otherwise bleak year. We kept the muddy original Amiga, it's toast, but we found it and so far haven't the heart to give it the final toss.
Zork? Inform 7? :) I LOVE text adventures. Have you tried Adrift?
Knee-high to a keyboard? My how times have changed, my 6 year old grandson now keeps his laptop in his top bunk(where the brown water can't get it) and plays his games sitting up there.Posted 16 years ago # -
All of these posts about vintage computers deserve their own thread, BuBBy.
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FwF, I can't/won't go crawling back into the dungeon to check, but believe my HP-150 came with a WHOPPING 5meg harddrive. Oh, and I remember thinking, "I'll NEVER fill that up!"
Idahl, very sorry to hear about your loss. Was I prescient with my comment about kids without software on their computers or what? I do believe GAOTD serves a valuable niche. Hmmm, reading Lee's post, make that at least 2 niches. Don't recall Adrift. Wish someone would point me towards a good FREE prose-based adventure game creator. And a good free e-Book creator, and a ... oops, wait, wrong thread for wishes.
Lee, by any chance does it create watermarks for NON-video graphics, or should I file a complaint? :-) I'm tired of manually creating them for static graphics.
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Wish someone would point me towards a good FREE prose-based adventure game creator.
Adrift, the adventure game creator was free at one time but I think it's shareware now. There was another one like it, but wasn't as well supported, and now of course, I don't remember it's name.
It would be great if they could get it as a give away for you, but it would probably enrage many of the visitors here as it would be interesting to only such a small niche of users.
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Yup, a touchy bunch they be, although Lockett seems okay for a young whippersnapper. :-)
My all-time favorite game was/is Myst, with Riven coming in a close second. Unfortunately, it didn't work when I first tried it with this WinXP. (I don't think I've played with the configuration wizard yet, having fallen behind the download curve thanks to FwF and GAOTD)
As my older DELL's 400-pound refrigerator-size monitor is about to cough up a lung, I'd appreciate input from hardware geeks (or geekettes) as to whether one of the new and ridiculously inexpensive flat screen monitors will work with Win95. Most electronic hardware and I have a very iffy history of compatibility. Half the time I can't get something to work, the other half it works but then promptly kicks the bucket.
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whether one of the new and ridiculously inexpensive flat screen monitors will work with Win95.
I believe it's more a question of what kind of graphics card, and therefore, what kind of interface it has, that determines that, RM..
What graphic card are you running on the Win95 system?
And btw, I do believe you are right, I think it WAS a 5meg, and not a 50meg HD that I first got. The years do dim things, yes? :-)
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I think it's a talking bird with a clay tablet. Lemme check and then I'll append something to this or maybe I'll turn on the bat light and meet you on the secret forum.
*** UPDATE ***
The words graphics card and interface are noticeably absent from the system properties > device manager tab > display adapters. It shows:
Matrox Millennium II AGP
Device type: display adapters
Manufacturer: Matrox graphicsThe shipping invoice offers this:
Matrox AGP 8MB video board, 4MB module with 4MB upgrade module factory installedThis is one of those times when my ignorance outshines the bald spot on the top of my head. The only words I recognized in that description were megabyte and factory installed.
What's even more frustrating is that the sound card in the old Dell is superior to the sound card in my new Dell. (just one of many things the salesman didn't see fit to tell me). The new one doesn't offer any base/treble control. I'd like to swap them, but don't know if either card would be compatible as each card came with a CD with drivers(?) and Dell has downloaded quite a few driver upgrades. But I digress, and realize such hardware problems (like how to get cotton pickin scanner card to fit in a cotton pickin slot) need to be hashed out on a tech forum. I loathe hardware.
FwF, thanks for any help you can offer. I'll check back tomorrow, if my rapidly fading memory can get me back here!
Posted 16 years ago # -
>ldahl
Try Inform 7. I'm learning it right now, and it's pretty easy.
Posted 16 years ago # -
Idahl, thank you. I thought you meant Adrift as in an Amiga game, but now I see it's a creator. Ohboyohboyohboy http://www.adrift.org.uk/cgi/new/adrift.cgi
Found a new free web site, too -
http://www.mrfreefree.com/free_software/free_software_for_creating_gamesc.html
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RM: http://www.ambrosine.com/resource.html is a good page too. I think Adrift might meet your criteria also.
LEE: Happy Gifty Day to you:)
Lockett... you get points for getting my name right:))) it is L. Dahl, though I'm learning to answer to Idahl...*giggle* I haven't checked out text adventures in awhile. What has been some of your favorites? One of those interpreters could handle sounds and graghics. I have always thought text adventures were a largely unexplored country even though they have been around since the beginning. Rather like Alaska, don't you think?
Hidden value that is just now starting to come into it's own.FWF: I think D Paint may still be around in a strange incarnation. I also think Corel's Painter 10 is the great great Granddaughter of Digi-Paint. Not iff's anymore though.
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Memories - memories...
I can't believe it now, but I too tried to create great art on my commodore in
the 70th ?... basic ... pixel after pixel after pixel ...saving on tape ... showing it to my friend...one time - and than ? machine kaputt! a lot of $$ or DM and a dead computer - no support like today, only frustration...than life had other topevents, children - I forgot the fascination of computers.
Now I am listening to your stories and be somewhat jealous, but being honest, my head was never made for tech or math, I would have never become a game coder.
But I've found some game sites and some applications, perhaps thats something for RunsageMagik and Lockett.http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2237?replies=1
This one
http://reinerstileset.4players.de/gamesnappsE.html#apps
prevented me from buying a $$$ €€€ computer, I accepted, that I never ever would learn to do such wonderful things.
graylox
I'm looking forward to your first little game, Lockett
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